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“Cruel love” quarreled Philip Kirkorov and Didier Marouani: the music-criminal scandal continues. Scandal between Timati and Kirkorov: correspondence on Twitter and nothing more What kind of conflict occurred between Timati and Kirkorov

The deadline for the pre-investigation check on the statement of the singer Philip Kirkorov in relation to the leader of the French music group Space by Didier Marouani and lawyer Igor Trunov has been extended to 30 days. This was reported to TASS by the head of the press service Russian artist Anton Korobkov-Zemlyansky.

Yuri Loza about the scandal of Kirkorov and Maruani

According to him, Trunov’s statement that the police did not initiate a criminal case against Maruani and Trunov does not correspond to reality.

We would like to remind you that Didier Marouani filed a lawsuit in a Russian court to ban Philip Kirkorov from performing the song “Tough Love” and demand compensation for damages from copyright infringement. He estimated his violated rights at 75.34 million rubles. Later, a statement of extortion was received from the Russian singer Philip Kirkorov. As a result, on November 29, the leader of the French musical group Space, Didier Marouani, and his lawyer Igor Trunov were detained in the center of Moscow.

The day before, Igor Trunov reported that the police did not initiate a criminal case of extortion against him and Maruani. The lawyer also noted that he expects to receive a decision from the investigator to refuse to initiate criminal proceedings. He and Maruani filed a complaint with the Tverskoy Court of Moscow against the police officers who detained them after reporting extortion. According to the lawyer, police officers detained gross violation law.

The arrest took place in a Sberbank branch in the center of Moscow, where they were going to meet to sign a settlement agreement on a claim of copyright infringement. According to Trunov, Kirkorov acknowledged the claims of Maruani and the Space group and even agreed to pay compensation.

However, the singer’s lawyer Alexander Dobrovinsky denied this, saying that there were no agreements, and pranksters talked to Maruani. Now Trunov and Maruani are trying to attract Russian star to liability for false denunciation.

“This story makes me feel bewildered. It does not honor Marouani, although I can say that he is a wonderful musician, since I met him at his concerts. But I just can’t understand how a musician and author-composer can make such loud claims complaints against a person who did not write this song. For example, I perform a bunch of songs, which I’m already joking about just in case, I say that this song was also written by Maruani, because in the world some chords can really converge. it seems, even if it is plagiarism, which we did not know about in 1999, and Philip could not have known either.

Because, forgive me, the French stage is not a priority and is not significant in the world. We have always been oriented towards London and America. Because this is the most widely replicated, it is possible to compare music with this,” singer Lolita Milyavskaya.

According to singer Yuri Loza, this scandal shouldn’t theoretically exist at all, because Kirkorov is a singer and Marouani is a composer.

"What kind of friction can there be between a composer and a singer from different countries? None. Kirkorov has nothing to do with the writing of this song. He is not a party to the conflict here at all. And everyone is dragging him to the forefront. Maruani must sort it out with Popkov (the author of the song - ed.). This is their showdown. Kirkorov is participating only because he has a million, and Popkov does not. That's all the showdown. And Kirkorov needs PR, but no one else needs it,” singer.

It all started modestly. Timati posted an indignant post on his blog on Twitter: “With all my respect for MUZ-TV and the fact that they always support me, with all the beauty and scale of this event, I am frightened by the INADEQUACY of the list of winners this year!!! How could you not give “Breakthrough of the Year” to @Ivan_Dorn ????? “Clip of the Year” and “Song of the Year” gr. Serebro, “Mama Lyuba” 20 million on YouTube!!! I’m generally silent about the radio. ???? "Hip-Hop of the Year" Banderas? Are you seriously? This year is definitely for @Vlady_Kasta & Co!!! “Duet of the Year” from the No Comment section, but it should be @iamGeeGun.........WTF ???????????? Very unobjective” (the author’s spelling and punctuation have been preserved).

Philip Kirkorov unexpectedly reacted to Timati’s indignation, who in a fatherly manner tried to urge the rapper to show restraint: “Do you have any questions? The most honest? I didn’t ask any questions last year! There is professional ethics! OK! Remember!"

And then Timati exploded: “Professional ethics @fkirkorov is when you fuck journalists and kick women, and then call my elders and ask them to excuse me, dropping crocodile tears on the floor of the Israeli clinic on Malakhov’s broadcast, this is an example of real professional ethics. And yet, who are you going to teach the minds of, SCARECROW??? Don't confuse the shores, I'm not from your cock clip, remember this!!! AND LET'S GOODBYE!!!"

Philip did not respond to this tirade. However, the skirmish did not go unnoticed and caused a flurry of reactions among Internet users. Timati launched a new tag on Twitter: #Philipdavaidadya, and he... instantly entered the world top Twitter tags, reaching second place.

And the subject of the dispute itself caused many comments from other show business stars. Oleg Gazmanov considered the answer to Timati Kirkorov “worthy.” Dima Bilan supported Kirkorov: “Being passionate about your business for 25 years and living through problems and joys and scandals on the TV screen deserves respect. How do you want to be treated by Prof. after 25 years? activities!?? Think about it...” Producer and composer Anatoly Lopatin spoke in approximately the same way: “I draw attention to only one detail: Timati, not Philip, spoke offensively, using profanity.” Sergei Lazarev took a conciliatory position: “ Dear Colleagues Artists! Forget about Twitter! Remember that there are calls, SMS after all! Stop throwing dirt on each other in front of everyone!”

When the sharp-tongued Joseph Prigogine decided to speak out, the scandal unfolded with renewed vigor. “Since when does the truth become cruel? What can we talk about politics when it’s forbidden to talk about the truth?” - Joseph supported Timati’s position. And he explained: “I’m not against and not for @fkirkorov. A person with a short memory behaves categorically permissively.” Kirkorov’s press attaché Olga Alekseeva stood up for the singer (“Who is the scarecrow is Timati himself, it’s not for nothing that he has the guards of a famous and respected businessman a tooth was knocked out)” he said: “If I were you, Olga, I would learn to pay back the money borrowed. 7 years have already passed, I’m waiting.”

Alekseeva was sarcastic about the reaction of Prigozhin and TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov: “As soon as the scandal with @fkirkorov, his ardent fans @VRSoloviev and @prigozhin_iosif are in the forefront! True fighters for justice))).” But Joseph decided to stand his ground and again stung Kirkorov’s press attache: “When will @fkirkorov finally understand that Alekseeva is the main intriguer in his team, constantly misleading him.” Then Alekseeva went on the offensive: “Indeed, 7 years have passed, but nothing has changed. Just as you lied then, you lie to this day. Nothing new... And in general, unlike your unfounded statements, I have real facts about your “noble” help to Yablokova..."

Kirkorov nevertheless stood up: “Please do not insult or slander my employees! This is fraught. Unlike you, we don’t interfere in your life.” Prigozhin immediately replied: “I have a very interesting document signed by you personally. Therefore, I propose not to touch me, but your co-worker. repay. And when it comes to ethics and gratitude, you are a great expert. Do not make me angry. You have a short memory."

Kirkorov fell silent again.

The scandal between Kirkorov and Timati caused such a resonance that it was already included in the Evening Urgant program, and many artists hastened to speak out in its wake.

"Star Factory - 4". Young stars congratulate People's Artist of Russia Philip Kirkorov on his birthday. The 20-year-old "manufacturer" Timati has the most important task - taking out the birthday cake.

Guests, project participants, are treated with understandable respect.
Before the release of his video, Timati publishes a message on the Internet addressed personally to Kirkorov: “Who are you going to teach wisdom here, you scarecrow? Don’t confuse the two shores and go on, goodbye!”
Timati's behavior split Russian show business into two camps. Some were outraged by his performance, others sided with the rapper. But the majority agrees: this is a symptom of the disease of the entire Russian show business.
So what happened? Why did Timati publicly declare war on Kirkorov? And how will this scandal end?
It all started on the set of the video for new song Timati and Grigory Leps. According to the director's plan, Timati was supposed to take off. A fairly standard trick, he had done it more than once. And that day he refused the understudy. A few minutes later, Timati’s cable broke. Severe back injury, hospital, corset. As a result, the Muz-TV award ceremony was held without his participation for the first time in many years.
Having looked at the ceremony from the outside, Timati expressed his opinion about the winners on Twitter: “How could you not give “Breakthrough of the Year” to Ivan Dorn, “Clip of the Year” and “Song of the Year” to the group “Silver”? “Mama Lyuba” - 20 million on YuoTube! I’m generally silent about radio. “Very biased!”
According to Timati, the Breakthrough of the Year award should have been received by Ivan Dorn, whose songs are heard on all radio stations in the country. Instead, the award went to the lesser-known Max Barskikh. Timati was sure that the prize was for The best video will receive the video “Mama Lyuba” by the group “Serebro”, because it has received more than 20 million views on the Internet. However, the prize in this category went to Philip Kirkorov and his video “Snow”. Perhaps this is precisely what hurt Kirkorov. He writes back to Timati: “Do you have any questions? The most honest? I didn’t ask any questions last year. There is professional science, okay? Remember!” Actually, in response to this remark, Timati burst out with a harsh statement: “ Professional ethics mobile exhibition structures are when you humiliate journalists and beat women with your feet, and then call my elders and ask them to excuse me." And the clip that followed it.
So who is Timati? Where is he from? Who is behind him? Why did he decide to openly criticize the master Russian stage? And isn't he afraid of the consequences?
He calls himself Mr. Black Star. His videos certainly feature expensive cars and snow-white yachts. He celebrates his birthday in Saint-Tropez and generally does not deny himself anything. How does this video reflect his real life?
He really doesn't cheat. A Rolls Royce Phantom worth more than half a million dollars or, for example, a Ferrari worth 300 thousand euros from Timati’s personal garage flashes in the frame. People, looking at the millions in the frame, immediately established their source: it is known that the rapper’s father is a very wealthy businessman. For many people, this became a wonderful reason to say again: “In any case, dad will do everything for him.”
Surely dad would have done everything if not for his son’s dubious choice. His father was skeptical about show business, so Timati set out to conquer this vicious world without starting capital. At first he worked as a DJ for Decl. 17-year-old Timati's debut on television took place in the video "Party". Then Timati encountered real adult show business for the first time.
The first person to believe in him was producer Igor Krutoy. It was he who took Timati to Star Factory 4. And soon popularity came to the young rapper. According to the participants of that “Factory”, Philip Kirkorov was not a special authority for Timati even then.
But no matter how the “manufacturers” feel about Kirkorov, he, of course, remains one of our most popular artists, and his concerts are always sold out. At the same Muz-TV Award, because of which the scandal erupted, Philip Kirkorov was recognized as the best performer of the decade, for which he received an award in a special category. And here Timati, who was not even included in the list of this year’s nominees, calls the distribution of prizes inadequate.
Timati decided to challenge the authority of the king of the Russian pop scene. The word “ethics” especially struck him. He reminded Philip about the scandal in Rostov with journalist Irina Aroyan, better known among the people as the “pink blouse,” and about his forced stay in an Israeli clinic. That time, Kirkorov could not cope with his outburst of anger and beat up the director’s assistant, Marina Yablokova. In all cases, Philip Bedrosovich, as Timati writes, resolved conflicts with the help of his elders. What will happen this time?
Timati is ready for anything. However, his life changed little after the quarrel with Kirkorov. Except that I started giving interviews less often. The call "Come on, goodbye!" in a matter of days, it finally went to the masses and became a general trend. He now appears in a prominent place in the Black Star office - so that they remember who they are dealing with.
Timati is ready to answer for his words, as expected cool guy. Together with him, his guards are ready to answer for his words - guys of outstanding size. Maybe Timati is seriously afraid for his life?
Powerful security is an important part of the image of a real rapper. Just like tattoos. He made his first one at the age of 13. Today, more than 70 percent of the rapper's body is covered in tattoos. And in this he is also the first - the most tattooed star of domestic show business.
Personal life is also a component of the image. At the Star Factory, Timati had an affair with the 15-year-old daughter of a Ukrainian tycoon, Alexa. This love story, of course, became one of the most striking in the entire history of the project. Having matured a little, Timati moved from romance to business. Anyone could watch on the Internet the details of the bed scene with TV presenter Ksenia Sobchak.
Working on your image and occasional scandals are an important part of the life of a modern musician. But Timati doesn’t just sing today. He owns one of the largest rap music labels. He is engaged in the restaurant business, sews clothes and, it seems, only dreams of a vacation - there is too much work.
Timati himself says that he cannot sit idle. And here is the result: in a relatively calm, until recently Russian show business now there is confusion and confusion. So far no one can imagine how this fight will end. We can only hope that no spectators will suffer in the battle between two superstars.

About the continuation of the music-criminal scandal, which has become one of the main news of the last day. A dispute over the copyright of a popular tune turned into a major quarrel between two music stars. Police, pranksters, mutual accusations, and all this because of one song. “Cruel love”, which divorced Philip Kirkorov and Didier Marouani.

“I didn’t even know that love could be cruel, and a heart so lonely...” Nor did Philip Kirkorov’s fans know that thousands of kilometers from Moscow, the motive of this hit may seem familiar. And not just anyone, but the leader of the Space group, Didier Marouani. And even more so, no one could have imagined how brutal the confrontation between the stars would be.

He only has time to shout: “Victim!”, and disappears behind the door of the police car. The French musician and his representative were detained the day before in the center of Moscow. There, in the Sberbank office, they were going to meet with Philip Kirkorov to sign a settlement agreement. Allegedly, the singer himself agreed to pay a million euros.

But it turned out that Maruani became a victim of pranksters; it was they who, on behalf of Kirkorov, offered to settle the matter and invited him to Moscow. Marouani flew to Russia and made an appointment with the now real Kirkorov, for whom this came as a complete surprise. And in legal language - an attempt at extortion.

“Well, can you imagine that I will conclude a settlement agreement with the extortionists?! Neither I, nor my lawyer, nor anyone entered into any negotiations with these people. Everything that is said from the other side, from the first day when this information began, is all a lie, it is all slander. At first I laughed, then I thought. And when this whole stream of lies and slander crossed all the boundaries of what is permissible and possible, I simply turned to law enforcement agencies for protection,” said National artist RF Philip Kirkorov.

The scandal has been unfolding for more than a month, with both sides declaring that they carried out an examination: Marouani believes that plagiarism has been proven, “Tough Love” is a reworking of his song Symphonic Space Dreams. Representatives of Kirkorov, on the contrary, assure: experts did not find any signs of musical theft. The verses, indeed, are not similar at all. We are most likely talking about the chorus.

“The fact is that there is such a thing as a “golden sequence”, which is used by all composers, starting with the composers of the Middle Ages. Therefore, I am 152% sure that 152 people have already written this melody before us, it seems so to me,” explains composer Oleg Popkov.

From this point of view, says composer Oleg Popkov, in general everything musical works similar. According to the musician, he wrote “Tough Love” back in 1996, and first performed it in 1999. The Space group presented their composition a year later. So who stole from whom is a big question. There is one more thing: what does Kirkorov have to do with it, because he is the performer of the song, and no one has made any claims against the author in all these years.

“I don’t understand why they were silent before this. In theory, they should have contacted me, because I am the author, and in principle I am ready to defend myself, and fight, and prove my innocence and my authorship, but, apparently, I cannot give a million euros, you know? Therefore, in this sense, my candidacy is not very interesting to the other side,” says the composer.

Kirkorov also agrees with this version. By the way, he is going to file a lawsuit against Maruani for the forced disruption of his concert today in Kurgan. In action French musicians he found another familiar motif.

“Why did they suddenly remember her on the eve of Space’s tour of Russia? Who is so smart, who advised: come on, let’s have a scandal with Kirkorov! It really works. Pink blouse, there are some other scandals. It’s very catchy, it’s like a bull reacts to red. Your name will immediately become popular. Well, the result is obvious - all the media are writing about the Space group today,” explains Philip Kirkorov.

Maruani says: he doesn’t need PR - and everyone knows that, even at the police station the law enforcement officers asked to take a selfie. The musician and his representative were released a few hours after their arrest. The capital's police department is conducting an investigation; no charges have been brought against anyone yet. Marouani said he was a victim of circumstances. And he is going to fight to the end.

“As for the lawsuit that my lawyers have prepared, the only goal is to restore my copyright to this composition and receive the income that this song generated. Because if a composer’s song is taken away, he will no longer be able to create anything,” said composer, leader of the group Space (France) Didier Marouani.

At the press conference, Didier Marouani even began to sing, apparently as proof of authorship. It is the chorus, Maruani is sure, that is the most striking illustration of plagiarism.

“If we talk about the chorus, then the examination shows that 71% of the notes match. I emphasize 71%. This cannot be an accident. And even those who have nothing to do with music can easily notice the stunning similarity between the two songs,” said Didier Marouani.

The prospects for a trial, according to experts, are quite vague. There have been no such precedents in Russia yet. Abroad, music disputes are usually resolved before trial. However, Marouani's representatives promise to use all possibilities, for example, they are going to file a lawsuit in the United States for 10 million dollars. In any case, the examinations already carried out, which the parties to the conflict are talking about, will not have any significance if the process begins.

“We are now talking about the examination that the parties did in advance. This is not a forensic examination and these are not the experts who will be appointed by the court, most likely additionally. Arbitrage practice In the Russian Federation, this category of cases did not work out. And it’s almost impossible to talk about the amount of compensation or talk about how this case will probably be resolved,” explained lawyer Alina Topornina.

According to the law, the court must also evaluate the originality of the work. There are no clear criteria, which means the judge may even require a sociological survey. So the process, if it begins, promises to be interesting.

 


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